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Why A Closed Location-Based System Has Value

by Tom Webster on August 19, 2010

I suspect this post may be a little controversial, but here goes.

facebook_places.jpgNow that Facebook has implemented Places – and putative location-based rivals Foursquare and Gowalla have “partnered” with them – the tech pundits have all jumped in to proclaim that location-based data is here to stay. There is a key difference between “checking in” on Foursquare and broadcasting your location on Facebook, however. If you are a Foursquare member, you joined it specifically to broadcast your location, earn badges and score a few dubious mayorships. The very fact that you signed up is the implicit signal of your desire to broadcast your location-based data.

That’s not why nearly half of online Americans joined Facebook however. That’s right, nearly 1 in 2 online Americans have a Facebook page – your sister, your mother, your boss and your ex. They didn’t sign up for “Places” – and they didn’t ask for it either. Make no mistake – the addition of location-based data was not a customer-focused addition. Though location-based services are popular amongst the twittering classes, the vast middle of the bell curve did not ask for this function, and if it were carefully explained to them, don’t want it, either. It was added purely for Facebook’s benefit, to generate data for advertising purposes, but was certainly not added for your benefit.

Wayne Sutton has helpfully provided six steps to change your privacy settings to ensure your location data is private, but I submit that this is five steps too many. Facebook is America’s home page – the Wal-Mart, or Target, of online activities. The vast majority of users are simply not aware of all of Facebook’s privacy implications, and Places has kicked us all a little further down the slippery slope that the new “Like” button started. Let’s be clear – if your current privacy settings are set to allow “everyone” to see some aspect of your data, you are, by default, set to allow everyone to see your location data – and to allow “friends” to check you in to places without your knowledge. There are other privacy implications, as well, some of which are detailed on this helpfully scary page.

I can guarantee you, your mom doesn’t want this. If you are the parent of a child with a Facebook page (almost all online teens have one), you don’t want this either. If Facebook were to provide a pop-up for everyone when they next log in that carefully explained Places, and provided a big red “opt out” button, let me assure you that most Facebook users would click it. But, again, Facebook is not a user-centered enterprise, and their convoluted privacy scheme for Places is but one in a long line of goalpost-moving assaults on the data of your life.

Yet, there is a value for consumers in an opt-in, location-based service to express loyalty, have that loyalty rewarded, and build a relationship with advertisers of products and services that are meaningful. I’ve written before (“Antisocial Location Apps“) that I want to check into Nordstrom, express my loyalty, and learn about discounts and sales. I want to check into my favorite coffee place because I love them and want them to flourish. I just don’t necessarily want this to be a public transaction. Conventional wisdom is that open systems thrive, while closed systems die on the vine – that’s why the Foursquares and Gowallas of the world jumped quickly to integrate with Facebook’s “Open” Graph. Ironically, many of the same people who evangelize open systems and transparency are doing so on Apple products – the very paragon of a closed ecosystem. I can’t help but wonder here if the Apple way – the “safe,” controlled entry into the world of location-based apps and services, might not be the better way forward for mainstream Americans.

Some have posited that Facebook’s Places move will obviate the need for Foursquare and Gowalla, putting them out of business. Perhaps, but I can’t help but wonder if “joining” Facebook is the only alternative to “not beating” them. Here in the Triangle area of North Carolina, we have a vibrant location-based startup called TriOut that is making all kinds of moves to connect local residents with local businesses. Not that they asked, but if I were to give them some advice it would be this – in the long run, mainstream America is going to figure out location-based social data, and is going to pass some kind of judgement upon it. The natural result will be some kind of change in how location-based apps do business.

If I were starting a location-based social network as a play for local advertising dollars, I’d anticipate those changes, and position myself now not as an openly-integrated Facebook partner, but as a private way for middle-of-the-bell-curve Americans to learn about discounts, sales and promotions from their favorite local vendors. I’d worry less about badges and letting my “friends” tag me, and more about security, logistics and fulfillment for local promotions. I would not integrate with Facebook, and I would make that a selling point. The flying monkey hooligan tribe might reject your offering, but your Uncle Bob might find it appealing for the same reasons.

In other words, I’d let Facebook warm up the market for you – and let them take the privacy heat that is sure to come – while you build your brand now as a customer-centric, private and secure way to make people’s lives better without exposing private data.

What do you think? Am I misreading the general population? Would not integrating with Facebook be a death sentence for a would-be local service? Am I just a privacy Luddite, clinging to the last desperate illusion that my data belongs to me? I’m wide open to debate here, so let’s kick things off in the comments.

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  • http://www.conversition.com Annie Pettit

    Nothing controversial at all. I completely agree. I have never been a fan of foursquare because it is so public and potentially so dangerous. Facebook, however, is a list of people whom I have personally prescreened and trust.

    I am a big supporter of private spaces within a public internet.

  • Tom Webster

    Thanks, Annie! You wouldn’t think it would be controversial – but there are many out there who would simply say that the train has left the station on privacy, and that America (maybe Canada too, eh?) just doesn’t care. I don’t believe that – and I think approaching an LBS from that perspective is a more than valid business strategy.

  • http://eydryan.com eydryan

    Three points I’d like to make:

    1. while I get what you mean with facebook forcing you to participate I also want to remind you that the same thing happens with photos: people tag you and post photos of you and unless you participate you can’t change either (and if you do you can only untag yourself and not censor yourself or whatever)

    2. location based systems would be a lot better if they only used cell triangulation rather than gps. show my approximate location and then let me choose for example a shop or something that’s around me. GPS doesn’t work indoors anyway. this solves the issue of someone knowing exactly where you are in case you want to avoid them, etc.

    3. there’s huge advertising value in this and you shouldn’t glance over it. if starbucks can see you went to dunkin donuts next door they can offer you a coupon and steal you from the competitors. facebook gets a share of that and presto! new revenue engine.

    4. this is the way of the future. whether we want it or not the benefits sometimes outweigh the losses. losing privacy is a concern but there’s nothing that can be done about it. holding on to old-fashioned privacy is the modern-day equivalent of living in a hut on a mountain so people don’t bother you with door to door sales. we will lose privacy, we will lose freedom, but we will gain cohesion, safety and order. welcome 1984 and thanks for all the cameras.

    5. a panopticon is not such a bad fate, considering. would you rather live your life in a society of ultimate freedom, where you can commit any crime and there is no punishment, or a society of ultimate control where everyone conforms by the rules, be they good or not? hell, they both sound horrible but in reality you’re closer to the second than you think. we have no power over the world around us so why bitch about losing that power?

    just my two cents. and change.

  • Tom Webster

    Thanks for your .02+, Eydryan :) Enjoyed our Twitter exchange, as well. Totally agree with you about cell triangulation, and also that there is huge advertiser value – of course there is. But there has to be concomitant value to the consumer, and I think there are multiple ways to skin that cat.

    As far as being the way of the future, for every PayPal there are dozens of Flooz and Beenz. There is a future where location data is meaningful. This, however, may not be “the way.”

    And +1000 points for the Foucault reference. Hadn’t encountered panopticon in print since my grad school days, well Before the Common Era. :)

  • http://eydryan.com eydryan

    Enjoyed it myself :) And thanks a lot for the reply!

    I agree with you that the user should get something out of it, but nowadays there’s more to get than money. Just participating and connecting with your friends, discovering that the pretty girl you like goes to the same coffee shop as you do or letting people know what kind of person you are is just enough reward. Also, finding out what there is to do in the city is another reward.

    But the true problem is the lack of control, or better yet of power. We have zero control about everything this implies and honestly this should be a matter for state regulators. No company should be allowed to take these liberties and profit from them and no one man or interest group can fight it. Facebook is blackmailing you. It’s like saying you can’t go on the Internet unless you give me your credit card data. I may use it or not but unless you do that you are cut off from the world.

    The only way the future can be one of mutual respect and user control is through the users. And that won’t happen. Facebook’s future is kids who grow up and keep using it. They eat it up and integrate it so much into their lives that it is impossible to live without it.

    Simplest solution: force Facebook to use open standards. Force them to offer their data for free to anyone. Let anyone use the infrastructure for any purpose. Sure, Facebook would lose tons of money and sure privacy would be even more horrifyingly breached. But then you can export that to any service you want.

    All in all unless there’s a way to recreate Facebook in an open way there’s no way to escape its control.

    But let’s be happy that for now you can’t keep GPS on all the time and broadcast where you are. The future is going to be weird :D

    My final point and I promise it is my final point :D is that we really have no control over these evolutions. The mechanisms needed to have such services are too big and too complex to be broken just like that. Only solution is to create a social network that’s simpler to belong to (for example via http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_Field_Communication technologies on your phone) and build it to be open and neutral. Then let advertisers join and reward clients for watching ads, let users be as open or as closed as they wish with their data, and so on. And it’s not an impossibility, just like Myspace died Facebook could as easily do so.

    All right then, sorry about the gigantic comment, there’s just so much to discuss over this :D Cheers!

  • A. Gibson

    Hi Tom:

    You’ve made some excellent points here. As an ad agency, I’m certainly more interested in a system that is designed to optimize conversion, not socializing.

    And privacy does matter! Perhaps more so up here in Canada, based on what we’ve seen around Facebook.
    Whose privacy process sucks, to say the least.

    We’re having an interesting discussion on apps versus mobile browsers over in the Mobile Marketing LInkedIn group: http://linkd.in/bPof1m.

    Many there are arguing that apps are gonna fade, and enhanced mobile browsers will win the space. Find that hard to credit, myself.

  • http://secondaryartifacts.tumblr.com/tagged/location Ryan Boyles

    Tom, you are spot on. I think this is going to play out in some interesting albeit scary ways in the days ahead. I started asking same questions you’re pointing out there. Where is this data going? What apps now have access? It’s spaghetti oh my.

  • Tom Webster

    Thanks, Ryan – I think this is going to take a little while to play out, honestly, but it will only take *one* incident to screw up LBS for a while with the general public, and that incident is certain to happen. Smart players will brand now to disassociate themselves from privacy concerns. Spaghetti indeed!

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