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Twitter’s Most Elusive Statistic

by Tom Webster on September 13, 2010

I saw an interesting question this morning on the Twitter from Shiv Singh:

What’s the value of a tweet sent by a person with a million followers? What’s the Cost Per Tweet Impression?

I’m going to marinate on this for a few days, because it’s a thornier problem than one might initially surmise. Here’s where the problem gets deep. First of all, unlike, say, a banner ad, there is no guarantee that I will be “served” the impression of a tweet, if I miss it in my timeline. In contrast, if a website says it served a million impressions of an ad, then it was served to roughly two million eyeballs. Of course, many of those eyeballs may have blocked, ignored, or quickly scrolled away from that ad, but I can at least quantify what those of us who research the Out-Of-Home media space call “opportunity to see.”

With a tweet, it’s a little less straightforward, since one million followers don’t equate to one million impressions. If you follow over a thousand people on Twitter, your timeline is cluttered to the point that you’d likely have to actively seek out tweets from an individual Twitter user in order to guarantee that you had “seen” a given tweet from that user.

Now, there are people on Twitter that I do make a point of catching up with by going to their Twitter page periodically and reading tweets I might have missed. You probably do the same. Generally, these are people that I have a connection with – friends and colleagues with whom I have engaged in conversation with, either on Twitter or elsewhere. “Engaged” is the key word here. If I’ve been away from Twitter for a while, I might catch up with Tim Hayden, because I know he has worthwhile things to say and we’ve had some quality interactions on Twitter. Same with Matt Ridings, who I’ve yet to meet in real life, but is someone with whom I’ve shared some very thought-provoking exchanges.

So, if Tim, or Matt, or Jason Falls, or Amber Naslund or any other Twitter user I find engaging tweets something, I’m likely to see that tweet, even if I missed it in my timeline when it went “live.” Their tweets have value to me, and, it can fairly be said, influence me, because I see their tweets as conversations. Even if they are promoting a link to one of their posts, I have an expectation of engagement. If I ask them a question about that link, or engage them about one of their posts, I know I’m not wasting my time – they’ll probably answer me back.

Contrast that to someone on Twitter who, to return to Shiv’s original question, has one million followers. Let’s take Tony Robbins, who currently has 1.8 million followers. Tony is what can fairly be called a Twitter “broadcaster,” and I make no value judgement whatsoever about this. If he tweets something, I suppose I might reply, but my Twitter affections shall go unrequited – I have no expectation of a reply from Tony. This isn’t to disparage him; merely an acknowledgement that a million followers doesn’t scale. I don’t expect a reply, because I know that he has too many followers, too many possible conversations to engage in to have even seen my tweet, and I generally don’t like talking to myself (or to someone “managing” the Tony Robbins Twitter account not named Tony Robbins.)

At some point, then, a Power-Twitterer stops engaging people and becomes a broadcaster, because they have no other choice. If LeBron James actually does answer someone’s tweet, it’s the Twitter equivalent of answering one piece of fan mail – an “example” of engagement that doesn’t prove the rule. If someone with 1,000 followers tweets a question, I think those followers expect that this is an entree to a conversation. If someone with a million followers tweets a question, I daresay the vast majority of those followers realize the question is rhetorical. (I admit there is also the confounding variable of the retweet to deal with here, but engagement also comes into play in retweet behavior.)

Perhaps, therefore, the number of followers a given Twitter user has becomes a sort of barometer of engagement expectations. South of some magic number, a tweet is an invitation to connect. North of that number, a tweet is an inefficient broadcast advertisement. In this sense, that number is like a “Dunbar’s Number” for a new age of asymmetrical, asynchronous conversation. And that actual number, the “elusive statistic” referred to in the title of this post, is less important than what the number is perceived to be by the followers of a given Twitterer.

So, back to the original question: what’s the value of a tweet sent by a person with a million followers? On a per tweet basis, possibly more than a million traditional mass media impressions, given some level of self-selected targeting. Probably less, however, on a per follower basis, than a tweet sent by someone with 10,000 followers. How much less is, to quote the poet Rumsfeld, an unknowable unknown. The perceived “Dunbar’s Number” for Twitter, then, neatly demarcates the boundary between conversational marketing and broadcast advertising.

OK, so I admit that reach and engagement aren’t mutually exclusive. Clearly, more questions than answers here. If this perceived number does exist, however, what would you estimate it to be? Or, rather, what is it for you?

Or have I over-thought this to the point of utter hilarity? :)

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  • http://principlesoffailure.blogspot.com Siddhartha Herdegen

    I don’t think you’ve over thought this. I think this is exactly what people involved in SM as a profession have been thinking about lately.

    While SM initially appeared to broaden our access to unreachable people, it is becoming ever more apparent we have the same access we’ve had for decades; they broadcast, we write letters.

    These letters may or may not be seen by the celebrity. They may or may not receive a reply. The reply may or may not come from the person we were attempting to contact.

    In the end “engagement” is personal. It takes mental resources and time and therefore has a finite capacity. Popular people are popular because so many people want to engage with them and they have to make allocation decisions about their resources.

    Popular people will always be unreachable by the hoi polloi.

  • Tom Webster

    …which is why I suspect, as I hinted in the post, that for the hoi polloi (love that) Twitter is but an inefficient broadcast medium.

  • http://techguerilla.com Matt Ridings @techguerilla

    First, I’m honored you find what I have to say even remotely interesting, so thanks for the shout out.

    Second, I’d think using your theory as a baseline you should be to also extract a +/- valuation on a person based upon the number of people their followers follow.

    To be more specific, if I have 1 million followers who themselves only follow 500 people on average then I should be much more likely to be seen than someone with 1 million followers who follow 5000 people on average.

    In other words, the ‘quality’ of their followers is dictated in part by how sparse their tweetstream is or isn’t.

    Just a thought.

  • http://@kristajoyce1114 KJoyce

    interesting – how about Cost Per Imp with hashtags? I find myself checking certain hashtags more dilligently than my lists nowadays.

  • http://socialfresh.com Jason Keath

    It is a big clusterflock of a mess to try and gauge these things, the value of a tweet or influence in general.

    Someone with a million followers from the old suggested list by Twitter, typically have horrible click through #s, not much influence, not much value. Because most of those followers are empty shells, dead accounts, non-users, strangers standing next to you on the street of New York City. They might as well not even exist.

    Someone with 10,000 followers who were genuinely and organically grown and whose followers pay close attention to every tweet could easily have a larger impact, more influence, and higher click through #s. And then there is everything in between. And topics to consider and times of day and calls to action. Et cetera, down the rabbit whole we go.

    The only way to really know the value is to test it. And to use all the common sense that god gave you or you gleaned from ChrisBrogan.com last week to choose those testing scenarios intelligently.

  • Tom Webster

    Jason – I saw what you did there. :)

    But, the clusterflock you describe is exactly how other media are measured, no? In a sense, the difference between someone with a million “followers” and someone with an organically-grown tribe of 10,000 like-minded disciples is basically the same dichotomy we see with network TV and cable TV. Just as Food Network has to sell the qualitative of their smaller audience – and a higher CPM – compared to other channels, so too must the leaders of “tribes” sell the qualitative differential between their audience and, say, Soulja Boy’s audience. The only difference is – TV has it figured out. And the rabbit hole you correctly call attention to is exactly the minefield that folks like Klout have to consider if their metrics are going to have any value.

  • Tom Webster

    Krista – hashtags are an interesting wrinkle, for sure. A Hashtag, in a sense, gives a sharper context to influence – I might follow an “influential” for their a subject expertise, but be less inclined to take their word on other matters. Hashtags are perhaps a clue to sort that all out, but they are applied pretty sporadically.

  • http://www.eastridgeprint.com Renee Malove

    I love that you’ve overthought this, actually, because it proves a vital point that we’ve been making around here for months-that Twitter is a completely different beast when you apply it in the business world to people like Tony Robbins than it is when it’s you and the guy next door. At that point it almost feels like inefficient advertising rather than social media. Here’s my question to you: Is there anything that can be done to narrow down the field?

  • Jim Singer

    Please, we need to stop with this question! I see it posted once a month. Start backing into this and you won’t be as creative, be as productive, or drive any smashing campaigns.

    Absolutely too many variables. Social is more like old fashioned marketing. In this case, the data does not help us make the best decisions. Skill and experience does.

    It never really worked in any other channel either (but maybe paid). How will it work here?

  • http://blakesnow.com Blake Snow

    When compared to the value of RSS subscribers, I’d say 10-1, in favor of RSS (if not more): http://gigaom.com/2009/08/01/rss-subscribers-or-twitter-followers-which-are-worth-more/

  • http://www.ryanshell.com/blog Ryan Shell

    Tom, thoughtful post – this is my first time at your site.

    We all have these little opinions floating around in our head… but give this some thought.

    I don’t think valuing a twitter follower is where the focus needs to be. It seems like we have to shift the thought process to more actionable thinking. Meaning, yes, followers are great… but if they don’t do anything for you then they their value reduces.

    We need to pay more attention to the network as a whole, not just followers.

    If someone has 10,000 followers, none of which frequently RT, or 100 that actively RT… you’d have to put more value on the lower quantity that helps drive results/traffic about your product/message.

    Large numbers of followers are like wrapping paper, but at the end of the day people rip that stuff off and want what’s inside… and in this case, that’s hard data.

    @RyanShell

  • Tom Webster

    Ryan – welcome! Glad you stopped by. I think I was less interested in Shiv’s initial question (the “CPM” of a tweet) and more intested in the “Dunbar’s Number” angle – the number of followers one can have before engagement is no longer assumed. You do bring up a great point, though – it isn’t “followers” per se, but activated followers – those who have actually passed along, acted upon or otherwise interacted with your message. The network is certainly the key – and I think you and I agree wholeheartedly with your last sentence.

    Jim – I hope that asking questions is always in the service of creativity. Data shouldn’t dictate decisions, but it should illuminate them. I hope that trying to figure out why something works, and actually making it work, will never be mutually exclusive. I do know from my own perspective that some things we do in the social space are successful, and some things fall short. Call me a sucker for a pie chart, but I always like to know why.

  • http://www.BrianGroth.com Brian Groth

    Obviously, the answer is 42.
    Or to avoid the question and make it easy, treat Twitter as a channel to drive people to a specific URL per tweet. It can still be engaging, but the engagement continues at that URL. You can then track the pageviews and referral traffic as measures of the Twitter value.

  • zaibatsu

    10,000 Organically grown followers can’t really go up against someone with a million.

    Sounds nice, but it doesn’t work that way.

    I have a friend, let’s call him Mr. LinkedIn. I was on Brian Cuban’s podcast, and he said pretty much the same thing.

    “Reg, not to discount your 100,000 followers… But my account on LinkedIn is focused… yada, yada”.

    I raised my virtual hand, after covering up a well deserved yawn.

    My response: pick your blog, industry rag, insider paper… Yep pick one. Got it? Okay, now watch me send more traffic than god to that site.

    Now use your targeted followers and try the same thing.

    I know, click throughs, did they read the article… I get it, shear traffic along doesn’t do it. But what Mr. LinkedIn didn’t know was I trim my twitter tree like it’s a Japanese Bonsai Tree.

    I had dumped 45k followers recently, and in addition I’m constantly tweaking my content stream for depth of penetration and stickiness.

    Enough of my rant. I get it. In my humble opinion @Alyssa_Milano 1 Million is probably the strongest follower grouping on twitter. She gets twitter and can work a back channel twitter campaign with the best of us. You know rt?: [ ___] /via @______

    The girl didn’t even ask me if I would push it.

    Oh if you didn’t get what I just said, maybe you show sign up for a Chris Voss twitter class.

    It boils down to how active, smart and loyal your followers are.

    Nuff said, my iPhone finger hurts.

  • http://freecrmstrategies.wordpress.com Brian Vellmure

    “What is the value of a tweet from someone with a million followers?” Good question.

    How about “What is the value of a tweet?” period .

    The answer lies within the following questions:

    What is your purpose for tweeting?
    What is your desired result from a tweet?

    I agree that the traditional metrics don’t necessarily align because they aren’t easily track able (real impressions, etc.), but things like RT, responses, clicks on tweeted links (and potentially conversions from that landing page) are.

    So, the conclusion is simply that the number of followers a twitter user has is irrelevant. What is the value of a tweet of million followers, a thousand followers, a hundred followers? There’s no correlation between number of twitter followers and “tweet value”.

    The right question is “Who provides the greatest value per tweet for the goals I am trying to achieve?”

    In the open pool of Twitter with personally defined segments of users, the value of a Tweet will vary from person to person in relation to each other person, though tools like Klout are trying to standardize and objectify this measurement.

  • http://www.skypulsemedia.com Howie at Sky Pulse Media

    I don’t know you Tom but I want to hug you.

    I saw your title in Smart Brief. I was just about to slam you assuming you were one of the Social Media drones or Fanboys like Mashable always has writing for them. (My apologies I don’t know you but know wish to know you).

    Great post. I have done some observing doing the grunt work of building a community for a small business on Twitter and Facebook (how else can you learn!). I found the smaller someones network the more likely they will see a Tweet. I couldn’t figure out why the winners of Trivia Games for dessert treats always followed so few people then it clicked…they always see my tweets for my client!

    I had done a study on twitter when I joined to disprove the value of advertising in the stream. My estimates are that 95% of all tweets never get seen in someone who is active’s stream. (follows 200+ people and is on every day).

    You also simplified the question. Because we don’t know the goal of the tweet. Is it a demographic specific tweet? Is the goal to be retweeted? Does it have a bribe? Good content? Doesn’t this affect the value of a follower?

    It is rare I encounter someone who is not a lemming these days. But I am very impressed with your post. I will be back again. Keep impressing! Cheers. @skypulsemedia

  • http://opsafeintl.com Jonathan Wilson

    I like how Reg @zaibatsu thinks. I don’t have anything like the numbers he has, but our small non-profit has been able to make a lot of things happen on twitter through a loyal and active group that is constantly growing and engaging.

    @operationsafe

  • http://www.ryanshell.com/blog Ryan Shell

    Reg,

    Gaming the system by auto adding (not sure if that’s what you do – appears that way) gets a large quantity of followers… but your Facebook numbers aren’t supporting that you have a large loyal following.

    Just an observation… not so much a dig.

    @RyanShell

  • http://superbadfriend.blogspot.com superbadfriend

    I fail on all parts mentioned. :(

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