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The Limits Of Online Influence

by Tom Webster on February 27, 2011

On Friday, I instigated a call to help a friend of mine in New Zealand. What I asked for was not money, and not much time, really; rather, I asked for people to record a short message (20 seconds max) in support of the people in Christchurch who have suffered so much from the earthquakes that have plagued their wonderful city.

I’m passionate about this, so I recruited some heavy hitters to help. I’m ever so grateful that people like Chris Brogan, Ed Shahzade, Olivier Blanchard, Jason Falls and many, many more helped me spread the word on Twitter about this effort, which gave my plea for help a far greater audience than I ever could have imagined.

In fact, you could look at my request for help, from a purely business perspective, as what a marketer would consider an “influencer outreach program.” Instead of promoting a brand or product, I was hoping that these influencers would help me motivate people all over the world to record short messages of hope for the people of Christchurch, to be played on local radio stations in place of the ads no one is in the mood to hear right now.

What I didn’t expect was the absolute clinic this exercise would give me in the workings of online “influence,” and the difference between the weak ties of social networks and the strong ties of personal networks.

You see, how this story is supposed to end is this: hundreds of thousands of people heard my plea for help, and overwhelmed my server with messages of hope. The number of messages and the outpouring of passion and love for this cause brought the Interwebs to its knees. The people of New Zealand clung to those messages of hope – and another social media legend was born.

This did not happen.

Since I am not in the business of social media consulting, and I am not a social media marketer, per se, I have no fear of sharing these numbers with you.

First, the simple reach of my message was enormous. I used Tweetreach to gauge the reach of my message, as propagated by some seriously influential Twitter users, and to approximate the gross number of “impressions” my message enjoyed. So far, though I published this post over a “quiet” weekend, the reach of my message easily exceeded 600,000 – in fact (again, according to Tweetreach) the potential reach of my specific Twitter message alone was well over 300,000 and the actual number of “impressions” (from multiple retweets) exceeded 400,000.

Now, according to the various measures of online influence, my influence is OK, I guess – top third, anyway. The people who helped me, however, had influence “scores” within the top quintile and even decile of all Twitter users. If anyone is “good at Twitter,” it’s the folks who did me the great honor of retweeting my plea for help – some of them, multiple times – to lend me their megaphones and hopefully turn this into a wildly successful effort. Thanks to them, well over half a million people had the opportunity to see my call for help.

Back to my specific tweet, I ran my link through Argyle Social to track how many people came to my site to actually read my post through my original link. Interestingly, though there were numerous retweets through other URL shorteners and link-wrapping services, in the end almost none of the links to my site came from those – instead, virtually all of the people who clicked through to my post came via my original link.

The raw numbers on my link: 308,000+ reach, 410,000+ impressions, 389 clicks.

Yup, 389. Well below, I might add, what I might get for a good “regular” article on my blog, but not exponentially below. Still, I’m not arrogant enough to assume that my content is blameless here, so I’m more than willing to grant that maybe I didn’t “sell” it well, or perhaps my call to action was weak. I’ll stipulate all of that.

Still, 389 clicks out of over 400,000 impressions is under .01% – this is pop-up ad territory. Certainly no better than the worst AdWords copy, despite the online influence scores of the folks who helped me spread the word.

Here’s the real rub: From those 400,000 impressions (and again, in reality far more – I only tracked my own original link through Argyle Social) and 389 clicks I got exactly 10 submissions. As in ten.

I’m no numbers whiz, but that’s an actual impression-to-action rate of .0025%. Cold calling is better. Door-to-door salesmen do better. Hell, anyone could do better with a phone book.

Yet, I ran a classic “influencer” campaign. I certainly can’t complain about the level of support I received, at least if my definition of support was the nebulous “help me spread the word.” I’m enormously grateful to my friends, more influential than I, who propagated this message for me. In the end, however, it didn’t matter. The response, especially compared to the potential response, was laughably low.

Of the people who did respond – the people who recorded their 20-second messages of hope and emailed them to me – I have broken bread with all but a few. Some of them are my dearest friends – people like Matt Ridings, Amber Naslund, Tamsen McMahon, DJ Waldow, Jason Falls – influencers, yes, but real friends that I have offline relationships with. My dear friend Rashmi Iyer, all the way from Dubai, chipped in with a message, as did Ike Pigott and Raul Colon, genuinely good souls whom I’ve yet to meet. I’m unspeakably grateful to those people. Maybe, if you are reading this, you meant to leave a message and just haven’t found the time yet. It’s not about you, and it isn’t too late (go do eeet!). What this experience suggests to me, however, is that if you thought online influence has been a bit oversold, you are wrong. It’s been exponentially oversold.

If your brand’s sole goal is to hoard retweets and social media mentions, then by all means, an influencer campaign is a marvelous way to go. If your goal is to stimulate some action beyond the easily given, easily forgotten retweet, however, your results may not be so clear cut. Some influencers may not want to read or accept this message, I’ll grant – perhaps, they’ll see it as sour grapes from one who is disappointed that his “campaign” was not successful. Well, my “campaign,” such as it is, wasn’t successful – and I wasn’t even selling anything. Sure, that’s demonstrably true. Yet, I don’t judge anyone who did or did not participate in this effort. What is on trial here are not the individuals – its the very concept of the “power” of weak ties to influence action.

My dear friend Matt Ridings (you might have seen him as Techguerilla on the Twitters) has more tangible experience running online influencer campaigns than anyone I know – he’s super sharp, practical, and frankly brilliant about making these things actually work both for brands and for the people these brands hope to reach. He assures me that the real problem was that I didn’t design the effort well enough. Instead, he notes that “people need to a) see that the influencer took the action (the influencer truly believes) b) be presented with an action simple enough for them to easily participate and allow competition to take hold (“I can make a better audio clip than you did,”) and c) see results made public to allow a & b to occur in such a way that they believe the influencer will actually see that they did it for *them* vs. the cause, thus garnering attention for themselves.”

In other words, I didn’t “gamify” the effort in a way that would bring influence, notoriety or some other tangible benefits to the participants. I banked too heavily on altruism, and didn’t provide an opportunity for participants to increase their own online clout.

Cynical? I would only posit that if I knew differently – and I know Matt has had success with better designed efforts. I don’t have a cynical view of people – rather, I have an increasingly dubious opinion of the value of “online influence” and how it equates to actual influence. Again, if your goal is to get retweeted, appealing to online influencers is demonstrably effective. If your goal is to instigate offline action, or even an online trial beyond the simple recapitulation of a message, these ties just might be weaker than we even imagined.

No matter what you think about this particular experience, or experiment, as it were, it’s hard to get past this cold, hard fact: almost anything else I could have done, from a radio spot, to a banner ad, to AdWords, probably would have been more effective from an action standpoint. It wasn’t just poor, it was really poor.

I tell you this for two reasons: one, don’t get caught up in the online influencer hype without asking better questions, and two: to guilt you into going back to this post and recording a message. In the end, that’s all I really care about anyway. It may be that your reading this post – and not the myriad tweets from the weekend – will be the catalyst to actually prompt you to do this mitzvah. If that is the case, then despite the crapton of articles to the contrary, blogging is far from dead – and the various measures of online influence out there that essentially ignore the reach, engagement and metrics of blogs run the gamut from irrelevant to delusional.

Do you have numbers to share? What, based upon your experience to the contrary, might I have done differently? The comments are yours.

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  • Anonymous

    Thank you for articulating so smartly what’s been rattling around in my head. After the Amazon controversy that I accidently caused (yeah, I kinda broke the pedophile book story) I’ve been amazed that most of the GOOD, BENEFICIAL things I tweet, promote, or retweet gain almost NO traction but anything I say that is controversial, making fun of a celebrity at an awards show, or an amusing anecdote about a kid’s toy gets hundreds of retweets.

    Sigh. It’s frustrating. I didn’t set out to have the influence that I somehow have, and I want to use it well. Frustrated by the fact that I can do more good with it.

  • http://socialbutterflyguy.com/ DJ Waldow

    “What this experience suggests to me, however, is that if you thought online influence has been a bit oversold, you are wrong. It’s been exponentially oversold.”

    You have an amazing way with words – both written and spoken. You are able to remove the BS and focus on the what really matters. Thanks for keeping it real, Tom. Thanks for blogging about stuff that matters.

    Best of luck getting past 10. I’ll continue spreading the word. After all, my Klout score is 61: http://klout.com/djwaldow

    DJ Waldow
    Director of Community, Blue Sky Factory
    http://www.blueskyfactory.com
    @djwaldow

  • http://www.techguerilla.com/ Matt Ridings – Techguerilla

    I don’t really look through the lens of cynicism as much as simple reality. It is what it is.

    The “benefit” back to the participants in this particular case was being *seen* as altruistic by others (particularly the influencers they were retweeting) by retweeting something that made them appear that way. Thus high volume of retweets, low amount of follow-through. The cause you were trying to benefit was immaterial.

    This doesn’t apply to *everyone* of course…just a large percentage of them. But we have to think of these influencers as rings on a target. In your first ring of influence you can incite action because of your deep ties. I’ll make the presumption that I’m in that ring and say that I followed through because I care about *you* more than I care about your cause. I know that it means something to *you*. I know that you’ll see the actual result and that if I don’t follow through you won’t say anything but I’ll feel like an ass. More importantly, following through gives me a chance to demonstrate in real terms that I care. I’ll grant you that looking at it this way makes it seem cold and clinical, but it’s reality.

    In the next ring you have looser connections. People who will do you the favor of getting your message out, but *that’s* the favor not the actual follow-through you hoped for. In the process they look altruistic doing it. Win/Win? Who cares though right? It gets the message in front of hundreds of thousands of people and that *is* a big favor.

    As you move into the next ring and continue moving further outward however the ‘favor’ side of this equation stops. Now it’s about how it benefits them alone. But the problem is this is where the *real* numbers are. This is where you need your follow-through yet you aren’t providing them a reason for doing so. Altruism sadly won’t do it.

    Whether human behavior sometimes sucks or not is unfortunately irrelevant.

    As always, really great post, I’m sorry you didn’t get better results but I hope this post will add a few more to your roster.

    Cheers,

    -Matt

  • http://ar.gy/6vm Lauren at Argyle

    I’ve often had a visual of RTs as a game of hot potato, and more of a way to demonstrate the klout of those I follow rather than hype my own (which is negatory, by the way).

    Dan Ariely’s book, Predictably Irrational, delves deeply into the fascinating world of getting people to do something and the ways in which payment/rewards work for and against you in different scenarios. Matt’s target description below is in the same vein.

    Even though you didn’t set out to do so, I think you’ve provided a really valuable case study here.

  • http://www.edisonresearch.com Tom Webster

    People do seem to like piling on, don’t they.

  • http://www.edisonresearch.com Tom Webster

    You are a fine human being, my friend. Your Websterklout goes to 150.

  • http://www.edisonresearch.com Tom Webster

    On the one hand, as I noted in my post, you clearly have thought through all of these issues more than just about anyone I know. On the other, even as a practiced student of consumer behavior myself, the actual numbers from this little case study were still shocking to me. The scales have fallen from my eyes, Matt.

    What it all boils down to us this: influence does not appear to be “transferable.” A tweet from a well – followed Twitter user confers no tangible benefit, save the chance to make my case, to close the deal and complete the “what’s in it for me” part of the sentence. Fail to do that, as I discovered, and your FAR better off with direct mail.

  • http://www.edisonresearch.com Tom Webster

    I think, with my tiny sample of one, what I’ve learned is that influence campaign probably behaved roughly the same as any other mass media exercise. Next time, I’ll try some “predictably irrational” tactics :)

  • eyesparky

    Interesting perspective. One thing to note is that you do not have the analytics to truly be able to gauge the impact of your campaign in this instance. How much of a contributory factor did your campaign have in raising awareness for the plight of people in Christchurch? Perhaps it played it’s role in persuading people to take some action of support, if not in this instance the action you were specifically targeting.

    Ultimately, if many people who saw your messages decided the best action they could take personally was to donate to the Red Cross, for instance, then your campaign could be deemed a success. You just have no way of knowing.

  • http://twitter.com/colinwu58 Colin Wu

    Great analysis, Tom.

    I recently dipped my baby toe into the altruistic-tweet puddle as well, and my “campaign”, if I may be so bold as to dignify it with such a name, got absolutely zero result. And that led me to ponder things sort of along the same lines as you did in your article. (Yes, I am a complete noob when it comes to Social Media etc etc and I had only about 40 followers at that time – laughable, I suppose – and I didn’t even attempt to enlist aid of any “influencers” as you call them.)

    One of the conclusions I came to was that a simple tweet, much like a one-time radio (or TV) spot, is only seen by the people who happened to be actually tuned in at that instant. (Yes, you can go back in history and “catch up” on those you’ve missed but when you’re following hundreds, if not thousands, how far back do you really go?) So your tweets may have had the potential to reach 400,000+ tweeps, but how many of those actually saw the tweet with their eyeballs and understood the message with their minds? I’m not sure if there is any way of measuring that.

    Hmmm… this makes me wonder whether it is (even theoretically) possible to calculate the best time to tweet based on some characteristic(s) of your followers. For example, if most of your followers are in the US (humour me) would it make sense to suggest that tweets during, say 10am to 2pm would have the highest likelihood of being seen? No doubt some bright bulb has already done this and I just don’t know about it.

  • http://www.edisonresearch.com Tom Webster

    True, but I know 2 things: 1, they didn’t take the action i wanted them to take, and 2, there can be no impact if the post went unread. Yes, there were all those tweets. Those and 2 bucks will get me a grande coffee :)

  • http://twitter.com/peterstringer Peter Stringer

    These numbers aren’t incredibly surprising. You’re asking users to do something more than just click on a link, a response that’s already hard enough to generate.

    For the Boston Celtics, one of the most successful clickthroughs I’ve seen on our Facebook page was for an All-Star photo gallery last weekend. We sent the status update to our 3.3 million Facebook fans, and about 1 million people actually “saw” the update (based on Facebook’s impressions metrics, something Twitter has yet to really provide). Of those 1 million, ~11,000 clicked on the link, which is about 5x what we usually get in terms of a clickthrough to content posted to our Facebook page. (See click data for gallery here: http://bit.ly/fQvxyG+)

    Anyway, that comes out to a shade below 1%. And all we asked them to do was look at pictures of their favorite basketball players, something a self-subscribing, targeted audience has admitted that they’re already passionate about. Ask a pool of random people with no predisposed interest in your cause to do anything more than click, and you can expect that number to drop significantly.

    - Peter Stringer
    Director, Interactive Media
    Boston Celtics
    @peterstringer

  • http://www.techguerilla.com/ Matt Ridings – Techguerilla

    This is one of those discussions probably best suited to one of our late night conversations :)

    I can’t argue with your numbers. They are what they are. And while I have no doubts about the ability to improve upon them with different tactics, I’ll also say that no matter the tactics in this case I don’t forsee thousands of audio clips headed your way.

    The main points I’d make are twofold: 1) The types of broadcast influence we are talking about here is of negligible use for the purpose at hand. 2) The definition of ‘influencer campaign’ should really be re-evaluated. My focus is typically on building micro-pools of highly topic-relevant influencers and then expanding those pools over time. Relevancy, context, trust, time, and repetition. (like http://www.brasstackthinking.com/2010/05/social-hunter-gatherer-programs/ for example). Note that my definition of ‘influencer’ changes with every program, it has no specific relation whatsoever to people with large followings, it has everything to do with the topic area I’m trying to have influence in.

    Take a simple example like SxSW. Most of those attendees have high relevancy, already have some semblance of a relationship, context for the users standing within that particular topic area, etc. So a tweet from @armano saying “Sign up here for the best SxSW party there is” is going to get a lot of traction. The click-conversion and signup (vs. RT conversion) is going to be exponentially higher than if he tweeted your link to help NZ. For all the reasons I mentioned in my prior comment.

    I think what you *are* exposing is that in a medium like Twitter, simple reach has very little to do with success. And that is a big thing for people to know indeed.

  • Rosemary

    This is an interesting discussion, but I think what’s missing sometimes from our metrics is the delayed action. You post something, tweet something, or put up a Facebook campaign, and then furiously start analyzing. I, like a lot of people, wade through a ton of “things I’d like to participate in” items each day, and they get re-prioritized, sometimes for a week, before I actually jump in. There may be an “echo effect” that gets lost in the metrics as some folks put the action in the “to do next week” file. We often have people come back to us talking about something we sent out last year…they put it aside for when they were ready to deal with it.

    In your particular case, there is some time-sensitivity, but yesterday was Sunday (and Oscar day), so I feel that you might have prematurely judged the success.

  • http://www.edisonresearch.com Tom Webster

    This is certainly true, but this “campaign” started on Friday, not Sunday – and if the Twitters behave anything like email marketing, most of the action you are going to get will happen pretty close to receipt of the message, no?

    And if i have prematurely judged the success, it was all in service of my larger goal: to guilt more people into participating ;) So do eeet!

  • http://www.edisonresearch.com Tom Webster

    And that last point, was really the point. I approach these things with “beginner’s mind,” as the Buddhists might say. One of my goals here was merely to present some honest, real numbers.

    And I’ll have that late night conversation soon, Matt!

  • http://www.edisonresearch.com Tom Webster

    They might not surprise you, Peter – and i thank you for sharing some of your own! I merely wanted to approach this with no assumptions and then report honestly on the results. Putting some meat on the influencer skeleton, and asking better *questions* is what I am all about.

    Sounds like 1% was pretty good, by comparison! What did you learn from the exercise to improve for the next time?

  • Anonymous

    Tom,
    Great article. It’s a topic that I’ve struggled with myself, and I think it served as a great lesson for not only yourself but also those of us looking to better our understandings of our OWN circles of influence.

    Great work!

    Dali

  • http://twitter.com/Sed6erz Sed6erz

    I liked the article. Indeed I would think that you may have not gamified the effort enough. I tend to read and RT a lot of articles/links but I don’t take much action apart from some online surveys where I know I will have some feedback or I care a lot about.

    I would think that you would need one RT from Justin B. asking his fan to take action to see the number of recordings grow. Even if his audience may not be the one you are looking for (I would guess but may be wrong).

    It is really a good case to understand what your online influence means.

  • Liz

    That’s a fair point about your post going unread… but I read it just now, and I’m still not going to take the action you want me to take, because I don’t honestly believe the people of Christchurch would give two sh!ts about hearing from some totally random person like me. Donating to the Red Cross instead. Ultimately, I think it’ll do more good. (I’m really not trying to slam you – just pointing out, in addition to what you’ve covered, another factor in why people may not have acted on your request.)

  • http://twitter.com/lisat2 Lisa Thorell

    Thank you, Tom. What a fab case study and read! Yes- I think a number of us who have been studying “The Influencer” are now suspecting strongly that this is one grotesquely oversimplified problem. I first got alerted to this in reading Megan Garber’s report on the Christakis experiment

    http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/12/nicholas-christakis-on-the-networked-nature-of-twitter/

    where total follower count led to, like your case, a depressingly low number of conversions for a book sale.

    As I commented in my own post on this (http://bit.ly/gnoGOO) it seems we marketing types are coming too late into what the Influencer Research community (eg. Duncan Watts of Yahoo Research) has known for awhile : It isn’t just about Influentials, It’s about Susceptibles, aka the Influencees.

    Most happy to learn about Matt Ridings and I think his comments are germain to your results. Thinking about the clickthrough pathway (and the different rings of motivations he describes) to me well illustrates that influence isn’t a large TNT explosion that ripples passively through a network, but rather the hooks in your influence campaign design that you leave bring in different rings of susceptibles. The more rings you can bring in, the larger the effect.

    To this- oddly- I didn’t see Olivier, others tweet on this. However, since I’ve been to lovely Christchurch, jogged through its streets and hillsides, I’m going off now to “do eet” as you say. The ring you touched me with is your blog, not a high Klout scorer’s tweet. ;-)

  • Christina

    Is this all pertaining to a twitter campaign?

  • http://blog.ecairn.com Laurent Pfertzel

    Tom

    Your motives were good. I feel bad that the results weren’t up to your expectations and that you came up to the conclusion that online influence and advertising yields to comparable results.

    One thought comes to my mind, triggered by your analysis: Influence can’t be separated from Relevance. We all live now in a world of specialists where we own a little island of expertise (a blog, a fb page, a twitter account, a network of peers). We belong to a tribe. Influence happens mostly in this context or it’s “wasted into the white noise of everything else”. The relevance of the ask/the content/the cause to the context is essential. It will provide the power to cut through the clutter of our daily info overload.
    Matt is hammering on the benefit for the network you’re trying to activate. I think that’s important but as much is the relevance.

    Laurent

  • Ted Wright

    In ten years of focusing on word of mouth marketing (womm) I can tell you that face to face, person to person sharing of stories and “influencing” people works and in my opinion it works “every time and all the time” if executed well. Whether it’s Google’s global domination of search or the rebirth of the PBR brand (we did the second, not the first) we’ve seen the digital aspect of conversation be highly secondary to face to face sharing and not the driving force. I’ve also personally never seen a sustainable campaign with positive ROI that was mostly digital in emphasis. There may be some out there but they are few and far between. On the other hand I can name a dozen brands that owe their current market position to womm – Crocs shoes being a just a single example.

    If you want to sell more stuff to more people, more often for more money then womm is the lever. Thanks for your excellent post Tom and taking the time to respond to so many comments. That last bit is exceptionally cool. As I exit my soap box let me recommend Nudge by Dick Thaler, an excellent book by the godfather of behavioral econ.

  • http://soulati.com/blog Soulati

    Hi, Tom. I was just sent your link here as I returned to the desk; this is my very first introduction to you and your campaign. I offer a public relations perspective (my field) and a behavioral assessment to influence/action.

    Comparing Haiti to New Zealand, the U.S. and North American tweeps lent outpourings of support to the former which was broadcast widely and daily on Twitter for weeks. I learned of the New Zealand quake on Twitter and watched for lots of news from my stream; however, it was almost a non-news event (unless you were closely following). (I believe the turmoil on U.S. home turf has had something to do with that and perhaps the global scale, as well. Did geography play in that? Why did the non-profits not push for more support of the victims?)

    Secondly, if I don’t know you (and I follow Jason Falls and Jason Baer closely), I want something easier than making a recording of hope. In fact, I’m not sure I’d even know how to do that, and then, I’m even more unsure whether this would be distributed to the quake victims without technology and what good would it truly do when they could probably use my $$ instead. (I never read your original call to action, so I’m saying all this based on what you’ve written here.)

    As for Twitter influence, it boils down to the campaign; I disagree with you that influence is exponentially oversold. You launched the campaign on Friday; why is that? The weekend stream is far different than the workweek stream; absolute.

    Did you use Facebook or LinkedIn or LinkedIn groups? Did you do a hashtag search for New Zealand to see who was tracking there and invite them to join your campaign? Did you give the campaign a chance to grow and go viral? Did you do a podcast of the tapings or a video on YouTube? How about an online press release to point to the campaign, too?

    Perhaps this clinic was about Twitter only; but, no one uses the Twitter channel alone to get results; it’s an integrated marketing campaign via traditional means and online engagement connectivity that creates successful metrics.

    I’ve been in the thick of global “help” campaigns; recently propagated one originating from Hong Kong via Twitter. Results were impressive, but then I’m not measuring with data. Your numbers don’t lie; but, over what period of time is this and how did you keep the campaign alive?

  • Anonymous

    I would agree with Matt and Soulati. I think the core problem was trying to trigger people to do something quite difficult. You got the simple minimum-effort reaction (retweeting) but very, very few people did exactly what you wanted.

    I didn’t see your tweets, for whatever reason, but even looking at it now, I wouldn’t follow up because a) it involves lots of steps b) I wouldn’t know what to say and c) fundamentally, I don’t really relate to this as a solution. And I say that having a great deal of respect for you. It’s the kind of action that I would only take if a close friend asked, and that’s exactly what happened.

    So I’m doubtful about what this really means for influence, except perhaps that great reach says very little about persuasive power.

    NZ is being covered quite a lot here, but it’s way behind the unfolding turmoil of Libya.

  • http://www.edisonresearch.com Tom Webster

    I note with some regret that there are several comments to my post that go into some detail about why my effort was doomed to perform poorly, and how it was just too much effort for people I dont really know.

    Many of those comments are well-written, well-reasoned and surely the product of at least a few moments of thought and a minute or two of writing – all from people I’ve never met.

  • http://www.312digital.com Sean McGinnis

    I agree with Alison and also with one of the key points Matt made, and I’ll share my personal experience with you to illustrate the point.

    I was one of the 389 who clicked through to the post, read it and did nothing (except RT it). The reason? Complexity.

    I’m a “somewhat” tech savvy guy, but I have no experience with podcasting or other recording equipment. So, while I was in fact motivated and found the cause inspiring I felt there were too many barriers for me to participate. If the barriers to participation were lower, I expect you would have had many more people contribute.

  • http://soulati.com/blog Soulati

    Hello, Tom. My name is Jayme. Just wondering what you might mean when you say …”with some regret?”

    Is it because you don’t know me and it was my first time commenting here? Didn’t want other viewpoints about “why my effort was doomed to perform poorly” although I felt you were asking for feedback? Or do you regret that people like me thought your campaign was “just too much effort?”

    My 30 minutes of thought and writing to make your blog and this discussion richer perhaps wasn’t the best use of my time based on how I’m reading between the lines with your remark.

    I certainly hope that’s not the case.

  • http://soulati.com/blog Soulati

    Correction: just caught my error above “Jay Baer.”

  • http://www.edisonresearch.com Tom Webster

    It’s not about you, it’s about me. Surely, as so many have pointed out, there were things I could have done better in my little experiment.

    Thanks for your comments, which, as you point out, enrich this blog.

  • http://www.edisonresearch.com Tom Webster

    It’s not about you, it’s about me. Surely, as so many have pointed out, there were things I could have done better in my little experiment.

    Thanks for your comments, which, as you point out, enrich this blog.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1398115973 Chelsea Junget

    Twitter and SM move so fast it’s unreal. Even if someone has great intent to engage or contribute, they are distracted by the next pitch or plea. I know I’m a pretty tuned-in SM participant and I’ve become fairly hardened to altruistic SM efforts over the past few years.

  • http://twitter.com/AnneFlink12 Anne Cowley

    Very good post. Perhaps we are experiencing Influencer overload. I too question the conversion to actual influence.

  • http://www.3hatscommunications.com davinabrewer

    Tom, Thanks for introducing me Tweetreach and Argyle Social, always good to discover new tools so I’ll be checking those out soon.

    I liked this personal example of measuring the success and fails of an influence campaign, that you defined your fail as people not taking the action you wanted (the message, the post) and just RT’d as a favor. Many other comments detailed strategies about things you could have tried: better timing, tapping the weekday audience, cross-promoting via hashtags, other social sites. And of course the sad fact that altruism 1) often ends where work, effort begins; anything more complicated than a mouse click is a hard sell and 2) needs to reward or gamify the giver, motivation for helping.

    All this talk of influence, I’m not sure I know how to articulate where I stand except like you I agree it’s over hyped. There are the social and personal ties, with some cross over. Easy enough imagining a few friends helping out for a noble cause but then, that’s safe, easy. Show support when someone screws up with a terrible blog post or blows it with a client, when it’s something hard, challenging and maybe controversial, that’s influence – that ability to turn the tide, make things happen beyond economies of scale, follower and Klout numbers. FWIW.

  • http://busylearners.com Robert Bacal

    This is great. Rather it’s an important topic, and I’m sorry you didn’t get a better response to what is a clear need. What you’ve hit upon is what I’ve been talking about for 18 months now. Social media influence, by and large, is illusory because (here it comes), the link between social media behavior, and behavior in the non-virtual world is very very weak. That is, you might get people to tweet about your cause, or issue, but you probably won’t get them to do anything that requires anything OFF of social media.

    Of course, there are exceptions, but most people, even supposed experts, have yet to grasp this fundamental issue. Online “influence” is limited to influencing online behavior, generally.

    Second, once again, experts don’t understand reach as it relates to social media. The odds are hugely against people reading, responding and acting with respect to tweets. You could have 100,000 followers, some of whom will retweet, but hte number of people who even see/read of those 100k is tiny, because Twitter is a streaming medium.

    That’s why the research indicates that over 90% of tweets receive no ack., no response, no nothing. People don’t see them, and if they see them, they only read very few, and of those they don’t really attend to many, and if they pay attention, they aren’t going to act (see above).

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  • http://twitter.com/vpalan vpalan

    We should also consider that the request was to do something primarily altruistic, so this may not be a case study that can be easily generalized. Product campaigns normally promise some kind of value back to the user: either a better product/service or some kind of discount.

    But people don’t always want to participate for material reasons. In the future, perhaps such campaigns should take into account how they are helping users develop their social currency (e.g., standing in the community).

  • http://busylearners.com Robert Bacal

    Great comments. I’m somewhat concerned about the “excuses” made for the lack of positive results, although I think it’s great to look for data and evidence and question everything. EXCEPT I now from experience that there is a huge strong bias causing people not to want to admit what is sometimes painfully clear from the data, and that is that Twitter (and other social venues) is very weak and ineffectual in influencing anything other than trivial twitter behavior.

    Celebs don’t do it, so the data suggests. Smaller folks don’t get influence either except with their “friends” they have non-twitter relationships with. Most tweets go unread, and it’s getting worse due to the low quality spam nature of most tweets and the automated processes.

    The number of businesses who have tried, and tried hard to make use of Twitter for business purposes, and GIVEN UP has been huge over the last two years, yet nobody wants to look at that, or admit the failures are huge, probably in the 95% range.

    People make excuses suggesting the failures are a result of not doing it right, or fluke, rather than viewing it the sensible way which is to realize the highly touted successes of “influence” are so few, we hear about the same ones over and over again.

    Want to prove it to yourself. Offer a free giveaway of something that’s a bit less valuable than a Porsche and a little more valuable than free chewing gum, and send ONE tweet about it. Track how many takers you get.

    I guarantee you your results will “probably be” dreadful. If you require effort your results will be worse (ie. registering). If you require effort OFF the computer to get the goody, forget about it.

  • http://twitter.com/webby2001 Tom Webster

    I stipulated from the beginning that there were many ways to do this better – but you are right that this has deflected attention from the point you suggest. At some point I’ll update these numbers, but everything has gone up in pretty much the same proportion, from “reach” to tweets to clicks to action. My lame powers as a “cause marketer” aside (I only claim to be a researcher :) ) it still looks no better than any other mass reach campaign, and there is no transfer of “influence” to my cause.

    In a sense, my floating this out there, unadorned, without some of the suggestions/variable that have been offered to improve my “conversion” have provided you all with a relatively straightforward look at what the reach of influencers – alone – can buy you.

  • Ted Wright

    If you are interested in the Influencer Research community I’d strongly suggest the work of Ed Keller at KellerFay or any of the researchers who publish their work in the annual compendium published by WOMMA.

  • http://ijustdid.org Jonha

    Several points being put together in this post and the feedbacks motivated me to leave my own thoughts. First, I like that Matt used the word follow through instead of a mere follow up. I guess indeed those influencers agreed to do it because they’re doing it as a favor for you but they don’t really see it as something they would do hadn’t it been for your “connection”. There wasn’t any follow through, like repeating or making the appeal even more appealing. They tweet it, eager followers would simply Retweet it because someone they know/respect tweeted it and that’s all. There was no enough passion to warrant people into action.

    Even without seeing your tweet (I’m glad I saw your link from Social Media Examiner’s top 10 blogs), I tweeted about how I feel for the people in Christchurch because I really feel for these people. I guess the response rate would also vary because people tend to respond to something they’re familiar and care about.

    Now it makes me wonder if how successful the “Buy my Life” campaign of celebrities like Lady Gaga and Ms. Kardashian was. You see, the followers of your influences listen to them for a specific purpose (like marketing, PR, etc) and getting a tweet like Help Christchurch is something alien or “out of their league” kind of thing, you see, it didn’t reach the right audience. Maybe if you get the help of “normal” yet passionate people in this area, you could have better results.

  • http://raulcolon.net Raul Colon

    Tom, Just saw this today. Thanks for mentioning me.

    I have to agree with most of the comments it is difficult to get someone to comment on your post imagine creating a file. In my case I appreciate the time you take to write posts which I find very useful so It was not hassle for me to learn how to create an MP3 .

    It is great that you took the initiative and later took the time to analyze the outcome. I am doing a local influencer outreach effort tomorrow for a possible client. Let’s see if it works out.

  • http://twitter.com/dchancogne David Chancogne

    Tom,

    Maybe you confused influence with popularity. Just because someone has a lot of followers on Twitter does not make then influential. Just because they are popular doesn’t mean they can talk about any subject and their followers will react.
    The problem you ran into is to not target relevant people. People more relevant to a given subject are more likely to be be viewed by their network as trustworthy and knowledgeable on the subject and therefore generate engagement.

  • http://www.businessesGROW.com/blog Mark W Schaefer

    Late to the party but but I had to read this twice. : )

    I understand the complications involvied but I still think the numbers are illustrative of the strong-connection/weak-connection discussion. At the end of the day, it was the strong connections who took committed action. Great post Tom.

  • http://twitter.com/webby2001 Tom Webster

    Thanks for writing, David! I can certainly confuse many things, but in this specific instance, the persons who participated were all “influential” as well as popular, according to several of the leading online influence measures. Take that for what you will. What this means is that either these “scores” were inaccurate, don’t mean what they claim to mean, or otherwise don’t equate to influence as I think of influence. And that may be all I am suggesting here :)

  • http://twitter.com/webby2001 Tom Webster

    Well, that is certainly what happened in this specific case – and again, I think some of the comments about what I did or didn’t do to make this little test effective are missing the larger point – the online influence of the “influencers” who helped in this effort did not appear to cast any sort of “halo” effect on my message – it simply wasn’t any better than any other mass media call to action. Lots to learn and think about here.

  • http://twitter.com/webby2001 Tom Webster

    Thanks, Raul – and thanks for recording your message!

  • http://raulcolon.net Raul Colon

    I hope you had a great weekend.. Was using your example today at a Blogger meetup!

  • http://www.twitter.com/fitzternet John Fitzgerald

    Maybe influence is transferable, or somewhat transferable. I think Matt has a great point about people wanting to APPEAR altruistic. If that is the perceived benefit, they’ll simply retweet and pat themselves on the back.

    There seems to be a heavy narcissistic streak in the Twitter-verse. Perhaps it is an inevitable consequence of the method of communication. In any event, if you are looking for altruism on Twitter, you’re probably barking up the wrong tree, unless you have some serious celebrity weight behind it.

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