<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: The Blind Retweet</title>
	<atom:link href="http://brandsavant.com/influence-trust-retweet/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://brandsavant.com/influence-trust-retweet/</link>
	<description>Gaining Insight From Social Media Data</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 10:33:00 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: 95% Of You Should Retweet This Post &#124; BrandSavant</title>
		<link>http://brandsavant.com/influence-trust-retweet/comment-page-1/#comment-840</link>
		<dc:creator>95% Of You Should Retweet This Post &#124; BrandSavant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://brandsavant.com/?p=616#comment-840</guid>
		<description>[...] you, how can you been a more discerning consumer of data? Or, more to the point, how can you avoid blindly retweeting new social media studies that turn out to be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you, how can you been a more discerning consumer of data? Or, more to the point, how can you avoid blindly retweeting new social media studies that turn out to be [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tom Webster</title>
		<link>http://brandsavant.com/influence-trust-retweet/comment-page-1/#comment-837</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Webster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://brandsavant.com/?p=616#comment-837</guid>
		<description>i&#039;m grateful that you put me in that sentence with Brogan and Ev, but I can assure you - I tweet a lot of crap, Ed :)

But thank you. And you are a phenomenal filter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m grateful that you put me in that sentence with Brogan and Ev, but I can assure you &#8211; I tweet a lot of crap, Ed <img src='http://brandsavant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But thank you. And you are a phenomenal filter.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://brandsavant.com/influence-trust-retweet/comment-page-1/#comment-836</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://brandsavant.com/?p=616#comment-836</guid>
		<description>I could echo Annie&#039;s comment above. 
I also retweet &#039;semi&#039; blindly if I&#039;ve already seen the post,
am on my phone, and see the tweet/link go by.
Or, if I&#039;ve been asked to review a rough draft,
and then see the author (or a reader) has posted/tweeted the live link. 

I will always blindly retweet Twitter employees and official Twitter Inc accounts.
If I&#039;m mobile, but know an author + subject are time sensitive,
I&#039;ll retweet for the benefit of my followers, even if I can&#039;t open the page on my BB right then.

I recently answered an imaginary question on Twitter, that went like this: &quot;Ed, how could you retweet and encourage @Webby2001 new thing, if you haven&#039;t had time to really use it yet&quot;?
I answered myself &quot;That&#039;s what a top Trust Agent gets as a reward for outstanding reliability and integrity&quot;.
Does that mean a Tom Webster, Chris Brogan, Evan Williams can&#039;t put out a faulty link or their own flawed report/software/opinion? No, we&#039;re all human.

But there are a lot of times I can either share something right then without extensive research, or never. 
And I know that my followers are big boys and girls with their own minds. Still, I strive to  be the best filter on all of Twitter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could echo Annie&#8217;s comment above.<br />
I also retweet &#8216;semi&#8217; blindly if I&#8217;ve already seen the post,<br />
am on my phone, and see the tweet/link go by.<br />
Or, if I&#8217;ve been asked to review a rough draft,<br />
and then see the author (or a reader) has posted/tweeted the live link. </p>
<p>I will always blindly retweet Twitter employees and official Twitter Inc accounts.<br />
If I&#8217;m mobile, but know an author + subject are time sensitive,<br />
I&#8217;ll retweet for the benefit of my followers, even if I can&#8217;t open the page on my BB right then.</p>
<p>I recently answered an imaginary question on Twitter, that went like this: &#8220;Ed, how could you retweet and encourage @Webby2001 new thing, if you haven&#8217;t had time to really use it yet&#8221;?<br />
I answered myself &#8220;That&#8217;s what a top Trust Agent gets as a reward for outstanding reliability and integrity&#8221;.<br />
Does that mean a Tom Webster, Chris Brogan, Evan Williams can&#8217;t put out a faulty link or their own flawed report/software/opinion? No, we&#8217;re all human.</p>
<p>But there are a lot of times I can either share something right then without extensive research, or never.<br />
And I know that my followers are big boys and girls with their own minds. Still, I strive to  be the best filter on all of Twitter.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Annie Pettit</title>
		<link>http://brandsavant.com/influence-trust-retweet/comment-page-1/#comment-833</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie Pettit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://brandsavant.com/?p=616#comment-833</guid>
		<description>If I&#039;m at my computer, I won&#039;t retweet unless I read the article and think it&#039;s either interesting or worth commenting on.

If i&#039;m in transit and on my blackberry, I tend to retweet without reading the article only if I know the original tweeter and the subject line sounds interesting. Then I also favourite it, and read it when I&#039;m back on the computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I&#8217;m at my computer, I won&#8217;t retweet unless I read the article and think it&#8217;s either interesting or worth commenting on.</p>
<p>If i&#8217;m in transit and on my blackberry, I tend to retweet without reading the article only if I know the original tweeter and the subject line sounds interesting. Then I also favourite it, and read it when I&#8217;m back on the computer.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: David Breshears</title>
		<link>http://brandsavant.com/influence-trust-retweet/comment-page-1/#comment-832</link>
		<dc:creator>David Breshears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://brandsavant.com/?p=616#comment-832</guid>
		<description>Just an aside - I &quot;blind RT&quot; from trusted sources as a sort of social bookmark. If something bubbles up in the stream that I want to look at later, I&#039;ll RT on the fly. Don&#039;t know if that&#039;s a typical practice or not. I probably end up taking a look at about 70 or 80% of those links.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an aside &#8211; I &#8220;blind RT&#8221; from trusted sources as a sort of social bookmark. If something bubbles up in the stream that I want to look at later, I&#8217;ll RT on the fly. Don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s a typical practice or not. I probably end up taking a look at about 70 or 80% of those links.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tom Webster</title>
		<link>http://brandsavant.com/influence-trust-retweet/comment-page-1/#comment-831</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Webster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://brandsavant.com/?p=616#comment-831</guid>
		<description>There is an evil method to my madness with this question. 

Matt cuts to the quick by asking how - or even why - one would want to measure &quot;blind retweets.&quot; Retweets are being used as proxies for all sorts of &quot;metrics&quot; by folks like Klout, Tweetlevel, Twitter Grader and scores of other services attempting to estimate influence and trust by mining unstructured data and forcing it through arbitrary algorithms. All you really have to ask yourself about the &quot;blind retweet&quot; is this: do you think it means anything different from a &quot;considered&quot; retweet? 

If you do, then the question is begged: if discerning the difference between a blind retweet and a considered retweet is an intractable problem, and you agree that there is such a difference, then what can you conclude about these various automated Twitter influence/trust measures beyond their ability to calculate simple reach?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dddAi8FF3F4&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Admiral Ackbar, of course, has the answer.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an evil method to my madness with this question. </p>
<p>Matt cuts to the quick by asking how &#8211; or even why &#8211; one would want to measure &#8220;blind retweets.&#8221; Retweets are being used as proxies for all sorts of &#8220;metrics&#8221; by folks like Klout, Tweetlevel, Twitter Grader and scores of other services attempting to estimate influence and trust by mining unstructured data and forcing it through arbitrary algorithms. All you really have to ask yourself about the &#8220;blind retweet&#8221; is this: do you think it means anything different from a &#8220;considered&#8221; retweet? </p>
<p>If you do, then the question is begged: if discerning the difference between a blind retweet and a considered retweet is an intractable problem, and you agree that there is such a difference, then what can you conclude about these various automated Twitter influence/trust measures beyond their ability to calculate simple reach?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dddAi8FF3F4" rel="nofollow">Admiral Ackbar, of course, has the answer.</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Rachel Happe</title>
		<link>http://brandsavant.com/influence-trust-retweet/comment-page-1/#comment-830</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel Happe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://brandsavant.com/?p=616#comment-830</guid>
		<description>Interesting discussion as someone who RTs a lot of content through our business account (@TheCR).  Most of the time I only RT something I&#039;ve looked at/skimmed or read but there are cases where there are people who write consistently good and useful content and if the title is relevant, I am pretty sure it will be relevant to our audience. We treat our Twitter account as an aggregation of interesting content for our audience (community managers) so generally I like to make sure it is, in fact, something useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting discussion as someone who RTs a lot of content through our business account (@TheCR).  Most of the time I only RT something I&#8217;ve looked at/skimmed or read but there are cases where there are people who write consistently good and useful content and if the title is relevant, I am pretty sure it will be relevant to our audience. We treat our Twitter account as an aggregation of interesting content for our audience (community managers) so generally I like to make sure it is, in fact, something useful.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Davina K. Brewer</title>
		<link>http://brandsavant.com/influence-trust-retweet/comment-page-1/#comment-829</link>
		<dc:creator>Davina K. Brewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://brandsavant.com/?p=616#comment-829</guid>
		<description>Tom, Agreeing with Jonathan and Neil, my tweets represent me so I choose to be careful what I tweet and RT. I click and at least scan the story before I pass it on; more often than not, I&#039;ve read it and also commented. 

Your point about authenticity and trust is very valid, and underscores another reason I don&#039;t blindly tweet anything without clicking: even the &quot;best&quot; of the best RT bad links, via automated RTs of people they trust. Sure a bad link happens, but I see it every week: a so-called leader tweets something, a few people almost immediately RT it.. and the link&#039;s bad. 

Matt&#039;s point about how and why you measure the blind RT stats is valid. As to whether or not you actually clicked the link, being quantitatively or qualitatively different: if the link works, I think it matters what you&#039;ve done to the tweet, the link. 

Are you just RT, hitting the Twitter button, or like Eric (or myself) adding something to the original content that you share with your followers? I don&#039;t think you&#039;ve made the link any different, but perhaps the tweet. FWIW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, Agreeing with Jonathan and Neil, my tweets represent me so I choose to be careful what I tweet and RT. I click and at least scan the story before I pass it on; more often than not, I&#8217;ve read it and also commented. </p>
<p>Your point about authenticity and trust is very valid, and underscores another reason I don&#8217;t blindly tweet anything without clicking: even the &#8220;best&#8221; of the best RT bad links, via automated RTs of people they trust. Sure a bad link happens, but I see it every week: a so-called leader tweets something, a few people almost immediately RT it.. and the link&#8217;s bad. </p>
<p>Matt&#8217;s point about how and why you measure the blind RT stats is valid. As to whether or not you actually clicked the link, being quantitatively or qualitatively different: if the link works, I think it matters what you&#8217;ve done to the tweet, the link. </p>
<p>Are you just RT, hitting the Twitter button, or like Eric (or myself) adding something to the original content that you share with your followers? I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ve made the link any different, but perhaps the tweet. FWIW.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: DJ Waldow</title>
		<link>http://brandsavant.com/influence-trust-retweet/comment-page-1/#comment-828</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ Waldow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://brandsavant.com/?p=616#comment-828</guid>
		<description>Yikes. You are making me think. Damn you, Tom. Damn you. I think Matt has a good point, but my head started spinning by the end of the 2nd paragraph.

Personally, I don&#039;t really understand the point in a blind retweet - one where you don&#039;t add your 4 pennies. I guess a RT w/o any additionally commentary is just an implied &quot;I agree&quot; right?

To answer your question,

&quot;Is a retweet of a link I did click on qualitatively or quantitatively different than a retweet of a link I didn’t click on?&quot; 

The short answer is yes a link has more qualitative value if you clicked on it first - even more if you added your thoughts &amp; they were positive. Quantitatively, I&#039;m not so sure. If you are just trying to get more eyeballs/clicks, then sure, it has some value. However, personally, I ignore most RT&#039;s that don&#039;t have added commentary.

I&#039;m confusing myself now.

OUT.

DJ Waldow
@djwaldow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes. You are making me think. Damn you, Tom. Damn you. I think Matt has a good point, but my head started spinning by the end of the 2nd paragraph.</p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t really understand the point in a blind retweet &#8211; one where you don&#8217;t add your 4 pennies. I guess a RT w/o any additionally commentary is just an implied &#8220;I agree&#8221; right?</p>
<p>To answer your question,</p>
<p>&#8220;Is a retweet of a link I did click on qualitatively or quantitatively different than a retweet of a link I didn’t click on?&#8221; </p>
<p>The short answer is yes a link has more qualitative value if you clicked on it first &#8211; even more if you added your thoughts &amp; they were positive. Quantitatively, I&#8217;m not so sure. If you are just trying to get more eyeballs/clicks, then sure, it has some value. However, personally, I ignore most RT&#8217;s that don&#8217;t have added commentary.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m confusing myself now.</p>
<p>OUT.</p>
<p>DJ Waldow<br />
@djwaldow</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jonathan Streeter</title>
		<link>http://brandsavant.com/influence-trust-retweet/comment-page-1/#comment-827</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Streeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://brandsavant.com/?p=616#comment-827</guid>
		<description>Neil beat me to the punch on this -- as a communicator, whatever I put up online in any channel is a part of my brand. If I retweet something incongruent with my personality, views, or professional opinion (or if something is simply in bad taste) then I&#039;m tarnishing my own reputation. What&#039;s worse, if I were to retweet something inaccurate, or deceitful, that would really show lack of good judgment.  

I also manage the twitter and Facebook accounts for my employer and am extremely careful to make sure that  whatever links I post come from sound sources and are compatible with our mission as a non-profit health care organization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil beat me to the punch on this &#8212; as a communicator, whatever I put up online in any channel is a part of my brand. If I retweet something incongruent with my personality, views, or professional opinion (or if something is simply in bad taste) then I&#8217;m tarnishing my own reputation. What&#8217;s worse, if I were to retweet something inaccurate, or deceitful, that would really show lack of good judgment.  </p>
<p>I also manage the twitter and Facebook accounts for my employer and am extremely careful to make sure that  whatever links I post come from sound sources and are compatible with our mission as a non-profit health care organization.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ICBEU Manaus</title>
		<link>http://brandsavant.com/influence-trust-retweet/comment-page-1/#comment-826</link>
		<dc:creator>ICBEU Manaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://brandsavant.com/?p=616#comment-826</guid>
		<description>There&#039;s no reason for retweeting something you don&#039;t know.Even though you trust the source,there must be some reading first,at least!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no reason for retweeting something you don&#8217;t know.Even though you trust the source,there must be some reading first,at least!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: neil wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://brandsavant.com/influence-trust-retweet/comment-page-1/#comment-824</link>
		<dc:creator>neil wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://brandsavant.com/?p=616#comment-824</guid>
		<description>I believe that the brand &quot;me&quot; is reflected in what I tweet, so I at least skim every link before I retweet. I would hate to accidentally retweet something that made a negative reflection on me or was taking a stance or position that I don&#039;t support. You can&#039;t always predict what is in a link from the tweet that supports it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that the brand &#8220;me&#8221; is reflected in what I tweet, so I at least skim every link before I retweet. I would hate to accidentally retweet something that made a negative reflection on me or was taking a stance or position that I don&#8217;t support. You can&#8217;t always predict what is in a link from the tweet that supports it!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Matt Ridings - @techguerilla</title>
		<link>http://brandsavant.com/influence-trust-retweet/comment-page-1/#comment-823</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Ridings - @techguerilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://brandsavant.com/?p=616#comment-823</guid>
		<description>The real question is what is being assigned to the measurement.  There&#039;s no doubt that regardless of why something was retweeted, or if it was read, that the *reach* has been increased.

Fine, so we&#039;ve increased reach, which counts for something.  But then we end up right back at your original question.  Because if something is not read, then the reach of the communication was irrelevant. (we&#039;re only talking about links here, if we were talking about a brand message in the tweet itself for instance then that would be different)

So without knowing a rough corollary to an email clickthrough how can we really assign a degree of *influence* to someones calculated *reach*?

Other than detecting those trying to game the system however I&#039;m not sure the effort required to try and make this determination for the purpose of influence would be that worthwhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real question is what is being assigned to the measurement.  There&#8217;s no doubt that regardless of why something was retweeted, or if it was read, that the *reach* has been increased.</p>
<p>Fine, so we&#8217;ve increased reach, which counts for something.  But then we end up right back at your original question.  Because if something is not read, then the reach of the communication was irrelevant. (we&#8217;re only talking about links here, if we were talking about a brand message in the tweet itself for instance then that would be different)</p>
<p>So without knowing a rough corollary to an email clickthrough how can we really assign a degree of *influence* to someones calculated *reach*?</p>
<p>Other than detecting those trying to game the system however I&#8217;m not sure the effort required to try and make this determination for the purpose of influence would be that worthwhile.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Matthew Carson</title>
		<link>http://brandsavant.com/influence-trust-retweet/comment-page-1/#comment-822</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://brandsavant.com/?p=616#comment-822</guid>
		<description>I always read links before I retweet, but then again I don&#039;t tweet a great deal

But you raise a good point about the quality of retweets. Unfortunately, without reviewing a person&#039;s browser history when retweets are sent, I don&#039;t see any way to determine whether they were read/clicked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always read links before I retweet, but then again I don&#8217;t tweet a great deal</p>
<p>But you raise a good point about the quality of retweets. Unfortunately, without reviewing a person&#8217;s browser history when retweets are sent, I don&#8217;t see any way to determine whether they were read/clicked.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: eagleseye</title>
		<link>http://brandsavant.com/influence-trust-retweet/comment-page-1/#comment-821</link>
		<dc:creator>eagleseye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://brandsavant.com/?p=616#comment-821</guid>
		<description>I don&#039;t usually retweet links, just good quotes. I imagine if I were to retweet a link I would def try to read it first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t usually retweet links, just good quotes. I imagine if I were to retweet a link I would def try to read it first.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://brandsavant.com/influence-trust-retweet/comment-page-1/#comment-820</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://brandsavant.com/?p=616#comment-820</guid>
		<description>A while back I used to blind re-tweet until I went back and read one of the tweets I had sent out blindly.  I realized it wasn&#039;t something that fit with me.  Now, I only re-tweet what I read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A while back I used to blind re-tweet until I went back and read one of the tweets I had sent out blindly.  I realized it wasn&#8217;t something that fit with me.  Now, I only re-tweet what I read.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://brandsavant.com/influence-trust-retweet/comment-page-1/#comment-819</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://brandsavant.com/?p=616#comment-819</guid>
		<description>I&#039;ll admit to rarely reading what I re-tweet.  If I read it, I&#039;ll usually re-post with my own &quot;subject line&quot; and maybe acknowledge the original source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll admit to rarely reading what I re-tweet.  If I read it, I&#8217;ll usually re-post with my own &#8220;subject line&#8221; and maybe acknowledge the original source.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

